Response To Errors of LiveJournal's Childfree Community

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There have been many errors printed in the LiveJournal's Childfree Community about this web ring and the owner of this web ring.  I created this page to correct those errors.  The first error has to do with what E thinks is SPAM.  The second error has to do with an entry created by phoena.

This web page created on Monday, 5/26/2003 @ 13:05 MDT. 

This web page updated on Tuesday, 8/10/2010 @ 20:34 MDT. 

Error #1 :

5/20/2003, Tues. @ 18:45 MDT (V 2):

I noticed, earlier today, a very unexpected surge in traffic to one of my web ring home pages.  I looked to see where it was coming from.  I noticed that somebody named bramblekite ( http://www.livejournal.com/users/bramblekite/ ), who is the same person as E ( http://eekyfreeky.diaryland.com/ ), decided to post many "Abuse alerts" on many www.livejournal.com pages.  The Abuse alerts, http://www.livejournal.com/community/childfree/1169556.html , contain a few errors.  First, childfreeman1962 is not the same username as wrown.  Unless E or other people can prove that childfreeman1962 is the same person as wrown, which they have not done, they can logically conclude only one of two things: first, that childfreeman1962 and wrown are different people, or second, that they do not know whether childfreeman1962 and wrown is the same person.  Second, the web link that was posted on a guestbook is not SPAM as defined by Tripod.  Tripod defines SPAM "as Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) or Unsolicited Bulk Email (UBE).  SPAM is any email you receive that you did not request." on their "What is SPAM?" web page.

If one has a guestbook on their web site that allows others to say anything that they want with a way to add a web site link to a guestbook entry, then that guestbook owner should expect to get a lot of different entries.  Those entries will contain praise, criticism and indifference for the guestbook owner, and information, which may contain a web site link that the guestbook owner may or may not find objectionable, for the guestbook owner and the readers of the guestbook.  If the guestbook owner does not like what is entered into the guestbook, then the owner should shut the guestbook down, permit only certain people to write entries in the guestbook, or publish rules, where a potential guestbook entry writer will see them, about what is permitted in the guestbook.  If and only if a guestbook entry writer has violated the published rules and the guestbook owner has unsuccessfully attempted to contact the guestbook entry writer, should the guestbook owner report the violation as abuse.

In the case of E, she did not have any rules published about what she permitted in her guestbook.  As such, in my opinion, she is in the wrong for reporting my entry in her guestbook, which I include below, as abuse.  In my opinion, anything can be written in her guestbook.

E should learn how to act like a mature adult by stopping her use of personal attacks, swear words and profane nicknames.

The guestbook entry that I made in E's guestbook (The time zone in the entry is EDT) :

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entry 147
name: Childfree Smokefree Web Ring Owner 
email: 
url: https://childfreesmokefree.tripod.com/ChildfreeSmokefreeWebRing.html
message: 
If anybody who reads this is childfree and smokefree, then check out the Childfree Smokefree Web Ring. 
date: 0:54 am - Saturday,May 17, 2003 
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Error #2 (I received a one line response to the Sunday, May 25, 2003 3:35:45 PM email from Phoena and I am crafting a response to it.  Because she has not corrected the errors in her childfree journal entry, I am posting the email exchange that she and I had.) :

Childfree Smokefree Geek phoena 2003-05-24 20:07 (link)

This idiot (childfreeman1962) emailed me a month ago, and told me to add his list of yahoo groups and links to my website where I collect CF links (http://www.overopinionated.com/Childfree/). I didn't like the tone of the email, because he wasn't very friendly or polite, but I added them. Then he emails me back, almost immediately, to demand I fix a minor error: instead of typing "web ring" I typed "webring". What's the difference? I always thought "webring" was more correct (perhaps I'm wrong) but who cares? Did he ask me nicely to fix it? Did he thank me for adding his list of links? Nope. The guy has no manners. I'm taking down his links, now that I know he's a spammer and a CF elitist. Heaven forbid he talk to someone who is childless and not childfree, right?! When I'm looking for friends, I don't care WHY someone doesn't have kids -- just as long as they don't have them, so we can do stuff together without some brat tagging along. After reading his personal ad, he looks like he's looking for someone exactly like himself, only female. What a freak!! He states clearly that he won't date vegetarians -- heaven forbid he eat a vegetable! He himself can't decide on a religion. Is he Agnostic, or Unitarian niversalist? He doesn't even know. His perfect mate better not be religious. She better not be a fat chick, either. She MUST be a hiker! He won't dress up, so don't plan to take him anywhere nice. He admits that he is only "somewhate affectionate". He says he will only date US citizens with their entire family being US citizens, lest he have to deal with anything multi-cultural. But then on his yahoo profile, he says he likes Hispanics & Latinos. How can you expect them to have their entire family as US citizens? I'm sure it's possible, but I'm sure many more have families in their native country! The one that REALLY gets me is this: she'd better be willing to live with him (and even relocate for him, because he's unwilling to relocate for her), but she must ALWAYS, ALWAYS pay her own way. How do you divide up the grocery bill if you live together? Each person cooks for themself? Divide the refrigerator in half so you don't accidentally eat something the other one paid for? LOL I totally understand going dutch in a dating relationship, but once living together, that's a bit far-fetched. He says he doen't want the government involved in their relationship, which is why he won't marry. But he wants a legal contract (like a pre-nup) -- doesn't the government become involved in a legal contract? Obviously he thinks women aren't smart enough to spot that. His only hope of ever getting a girlfriend is to clone himself (as a female, of course). By the way, he claims that "wrown" (the owner of the webring) is not the same person as him, but childfreeman1962 was the one asking me to list it on my site, not wrown. So I think they are the same person. He's just trying to pretend none of this is his fault. Thanks for letting me rant about that freak. He's creepy.